They’re Just Seals!
Posted on March 29th, 2006 in Environmental Whackos
Sure, they may look cute and adorable, but they make good fur coats. I’m sick of Hollywood celebrities trying to tell the rest of us what to do.
Anderson adds her voice to chorus of protests
Canadian-born actress and former Playboy model Pamela Anderson joined a chorus of protests against Canada’s controversial seal hunt on Tuesday, calling on the prime minister to heed world opinion and end it.
These hunters may be sparing some of these seals from an ugly and gruesome death later on. You ever see what a killer whale does to a seal when he catches it?
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March 31st, 2006
They’re “just seals?” True, but then again fetuses are “just fetuses.” I don’t think you’d ever thus title a thread in your blog, would you? Food for thought. And I’m proud to be an “environmentalist whacko,” thank you very much. It beats the hell out of being a “Christian whacko,” anyway.
April 1st, 2006
But that’s exactly the point I’m trying to make. The same lefties that demonstrate against killing seals are the same pro-abortionists who don’t care that 1.4 million human babies are murdered every year in the U.S.
April 1st, 2006
I realize that’s the point you’re trying to make, but it’s also the point that I’M trying to make. There are differing views on the “sanctity” of life. I don’t consider fetuses as human beings with rights, while you obviously do. I do consider seals as having rights merely because they have already been born. I don’t see a difference between the rights of born non-human animals and born human animals. Note that I would not object to the termination of a seal’s pregnancy any more than I would object to the termination of a human’s pregnancy. To me, only when any animal (human or non-human) can survive outside of the womb can it be worthy of anything resembling the rights of an adult.
April 1st, 2006
A human baby at 22 weeks gestation is capable of living outside the mother’s womb, yet it is still legal to perform an “intact dilation and extraction” or “partial birth abortion” on that baby. In other words, it’s legal in the U.S. to kill a baby when most of its body is outside the mother’s womb, but the head is still inside. That’s wrong!
April 1st, 2006
I think the seal hunt is like any other type of hunt, be it cattle, chicken, pig, etc. No killing is pretty. But seals are cute, and pristine white ice flows make a much better photo-op - really shows off the blood nicely.
I wish that celebrities would get their facts straight on this issue - I’ve heard so many ’statistics’ lately. No matter what someone’s stance on an issue is, I’ll respect them if they have sought independent evidence, listened to both sides, and made an informed decision, instead of merely believing what was handed to them on a fact sheet. I saw a press conference with Pamela Anderson today, and she admitted that she’s never spoken with anyone involved in the sealing industry, although she ‘knows people who have’. Yet she’s an international spokesperson rallying against the seal hunt. I don’t think the McCartneys had spoken to sealers either, and that frustrates me. I’m sure the people who do this for a living would welcome the chance to be heard.
Speaking of… check out this poster:
Save the Baby Veal: Avoid Cultural Prejudice
http://www.nunatsiaq.com/news/nunavut/60317_14.html
“… all cultures have a relationship to animals and … people in southern urbanized settings should not look down their noses at people whose cultures and economies are still closely tied to the harvesting of animals in the wild”
The poster is meant to give southerners a little glimpse into what it might feel like to have their own culture and animal practices judged harshly by outsiders.
National Inuit Youth Council: http://www.niyc.ca/comment.php?comment.news.218
April 4th, 2006
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/04/03/seal-quota060403.html
The quota of 18,500 seals was surpassed by about 1,000 animals before the Department of Fisheries and Oceans called a halt last week, a DFO official said.
“It’s pretty hard to manage that very, very precise because you have 40 vessels sealing at once, so we closed the fishery Thursday at one o’clock,” Roger Simone said.
so much for the “Highly Regulated Managed Hunt” Do you realise Roger Simone’s statements to the press are contradictory to the claims “It is highly regulated and managed hunt” Talk about the stars, do these people even have a brain that leads their mouths to speak?
April 4th, 2006
http://www.trentu.ca/isk/hunt.htm
http://www.nemsplace.co.uk/?p=394#
Do these to hunts look the same to you? Quit trying to say it is a tradition of yours. You are not Inuit you are scott, english and Irish just like me. But I don’t look out my window and try to find something else I can kill for profit. I do not ignore intelligent, rational alternate ways of income for myself.
This is not a “hunt” in most countries you go over your limit by one you are toast and subject to losing everything….the DFO doesn’t care plain and simple!
Unless you are going to add it to your long list of traditions…1950…30 million seal….1950-1970 culled by 66%….almost to considered extinction.
Do the math! Now your saying this is a safe substainable number, using statistics from 1970, “they bounced back once they will again”. Is that what your ancestors and you thought while traditionally whiping out at least 12 species? There are 5.7 million seal. And you say substainable hunting is 345,000?
A stable, healthy ocean ecosystem needs large natural predators, and all other big predators in Atlantic Canada, besides seals, have recently been eliminated. Scientists accept these facts: This is in reference to the huge numbers of large predatory fish that long competed with seals to eat small fish.
Today, essentially all big fish are gone, and rising seal numbers have not nearly made up for the loss. To maintain a healthy natural predator presence in the ocean, therefore, none of the relatively few surviving fish predators should now be killed, and that includes seals.
Natural predators play key roles; and entire ecosystems, including the prey species, do better when predators survive too. Eliminating large predators degrades ecosystems, and this occurs everywhere from forests to grasslands to oceans.
A mass harvest of seals today carries a greater ecological risk to the ocean than it did when great hordes of large predatory fish shared the waters (cod, shark, halibut, etc.) and shared the seals’ ecological role.
Oh but I bet you never even read this!
Funny that this argument was presented by one John Efford, in saving the cod a few years back…
“Mr. Speaker, I would like to see the 6 million seals, or whatever number is out there, killed and sold, or destroyed and burned. I do not care what happens to them… the more they kill the better I will love it.”
John Efford, Canadian Minister of Natural Resources
Seals implicated in ‘killing fields’ of Newfoundland cod
As Efford put it, “if we continue to remain silent on the harp seal issue and by our silence let Ottawa decide on the best course of action, we might as well roll over and die. Ottawa played a role in the decline of our ground fish fishery. Are we going to remain silent and let Ottawa deciding on the ways and means of its complete destruction?”
Response….
Dr. Jeff Hutchings
PROFESSOR
BSc (Toronto), MSc (Memorial)
PhD (Memorial)
As Dr. Jeff Hutchings, a fish biologist at Dalhousie University and an expert on cod states, “[Efford] has documentation of an episode in which seals have apparently consumed parts of cod and we see the bodies of cods lying on the bottom.” But Hutchings says the video is of more political significance than scientific importance. “It’s not a particularly unusual thing to see,” remarks Hutchings.
Unbelievable.
http://www.boycott-canada.com/news/geneva.htm It is not for the boycott
Read this for the Geneva court findings.
Also a man in power from here once said, Seals are smart you won’t have to kill too many of them before they will just all leave. Looks like he meant will have to kill TOO MANY.
The fact is he is a moron, they will not leave until their food supply is deleted, it is instinct.
We say, Mr. out fish the seals then, beat them to it, then we say oh yeah that’s right seals are smart so we just kill em for it, huh?
You claim this guy is a moron but he is the one that introduced the kill seal save cod policy. And again you choose to listen to unnamed “Independant Veternarians” and Politicians over world reputable scientist, marine biologist, verternarians and marine biologist?
Even your own professors and scientist…I am so at a loss. And the findings in the Geneva courts at this link….all the evidence…..you ignore it….all……I am still at a loss……
http://www.boycott-canada.com/news/geneva.htm It is not for the boycott
Read this for the Geneva court findings.
Kill the fisheries, if Ottawa and the DFO want to kill the seal to revive the depleted fish stocks, to fish the waters to extinction for billions, the world won’t eat the fish, seafood etc
You blame the ARA’s for no market, statistical market reports show from jump there never was a market for anything but pelt and illegal sale of penis, thats right give aphrodesiacs to a country ridden with aids and over population.
again you blame the ARAs and try to say it’s for money….
The senator that claimed he had the goods on the Sea Shepherd Conservative Society because they had an account in Switzerland. (In fact they did have an account in Switzerland, with limited funds, but it was for the Sea Shepherd Conservative Society Switzerland. Where else would the account be? ) He was later fired for misappropriating funds, or stepped down we can’t remember. See how they get people to believe their bull while they profit from blood? I say it takes a true dummy to believe their crap.
They attack the ARA’s and say they just want money, it’s an annual fund raiser, they have been trying for longer than we have seen in view to stop this, but the question is, how much would you pay, if you were wealthy, to Paul Watson, if he was an attorney, to protect someone or something you love from the death penalty, as an innocent person or thing? Fact they have been audited and passed with flying colors.
They say they care about culture and saving it, once again these are not Inuit’s. When the whole time they are saying this, they are Ignoring the Canadian aboriginals deplorable water supplies that are not fit for a rat to drink, and many, mostly children are sick from it.
The premier from Newfoundland states he is upset Costco made this decision without hearing their views.
What he is not remembering is, we have heard his views, on CNN, Larry King. The, we don’t club baby seals anymore, most are shot, this is an oxy moron most meaning you do still club some? In the mean time pictures are showing seals being clubbed.
Also we have seen the pictures of seal pelts and penis’s an exact match in numbers, what happened to the 50% female pelts, Danny? Were they white….maybe, but the fact is you can not sex these seals until they are dead, So you kill many and only take the pelts and penis’s from the males and females with perfect pelt. You do not eat it, fins for fin pie, but not 300,000 plus seal flipper pies. Fact only 8% of restaurants sell it, there is no market for it, you blame the ARA’s again, no Danny there has never been a market for it outside Northern Canada. And never 300,000 seals worth of it, not even close. Low income families can not consume that much seal, a million in three years? Again you kill the seal to fish the waters. You don’t like the seal because they eat your precious money.
Ok Danny, if you want the world to hear your views, talk about it, don’t hide, why did you cancel the meeting with Paul Watson? Why does our “Christian” Prime Minister ignore everyone and give no explanation? Why does the only other party with a leader right now, sit quiet? The man who hides has something to hide. The truth is Ottawa, you let the world hate the sealers when you motivate them and use them as a front…DISGUSTING!
And Danny step into the year 2006, your argument that the omega 3 oils are healthy are the only factual ones we have heard, however they are found in at least 7 species of abundant cold blooded fish, at rock bottom prices.
The seal are killed to replenish your fish stock and so you can make a few bucks while waiting on them to replenish….sheeesh what a joke.
Did you look out today and find something else to hunt for profit, oh that’s right the seal are there.
April 4th, 2006
Sick of the stars?
I wish just one of you pro-sealer types could get just one even barely known star to back your “hunt”. No one in their right mind would risk their reputation of sanity to promote this. Stars promote other types of hunting, but not yours. I wonder why? That is what your really tired of.
April 4th, 2006
These hunters could probably get Ted Nugent to back their seal hunt. I’m sure he’d kill a seal, grill it and eat all the blubber.
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