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	<title>Comments on: Why are gas prices so high?</title>
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		<title>By: Canada_guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canada_guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 06:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what is really stupid...when you live in a place where there is 30 or more oil companies and drilling rigs in that one city, and there is an Oil Upgrader 5 miles out of town where they MAKE the gas that the gas has to be over $1.20 a litre...that is bull</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what is really stupid&#8230;when you live in a place where there is 30 or more oil companies and drilling rigs in that one city, and there is an Oil Upgrader 5 miles out of town where they MAKE the gas that the gas has to be over $1.20 a litre&#8230;that is bull</p>
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		<title>By: History Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>History Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 17:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no law Jason, but to keep all of ANWR's oil to ourselves would require nationalizing it. This would be socialism and traditionally this has provoked hostile responses from the US, like when Iran did it in 1953.

As for the higher prices, we could always pressure the corporate elite to accept lower salaries and perks. We could also buy less stuff and find other ways to fill our meaningless lives other than shopping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no law Jason, but to keep all of ANWR&#8217;s oil to ourselves would require nationalizing it. This would be socialism and traditionally this has provoked hostile responses from the US, like when Iran did it in 1953.</p>
<p>As for the higher prices, we could always pressure the corporate elite to accept lower salaries and perks. We could also buy less stuff and find other ways to fill our meaningless lives other than shopping.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 13:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Drilling in ANWR.  Where's the law that says the oil we get from ANWR has to be sold on the open world market.  I know of no reason why we can't just keep it all to ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Drilling in ANWR.  Where&#8217;s the law that says the oil we get from ANWR has to be sold on the open world market.  I know of no reason why we can&#8217;t just keep it all to ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 13:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea who the person posting as George Washington is, but he's a complete idiot.  High gas prices are &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; good.  Ever think high gas prices will cause the prices of groceries to go up?  Most of the groceries in your store are brought there by truck.  If it costs more to get the groceries to the store, then the grocer is going to haved to charge you more.

If the war in Iraq was all about helping out his oil buddies, why has the price of gas gone up?  It does the oil companies no good to make record profits now if people start using less gas in the future.  When people actually start using less gas, then the oil companies profits will plunge.  How does that help them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea who the person posting as George Washington is, but he&#8217;s a complete idiot.  High gas prices are <strong>not</strong> good.  Ever think high gas prices will cause the prices of groceries to go up?  Most of the groceries in your store are brought there by truck.  If it costs more to get the groceries to the store, then the grocer is going to haved to charge you more.</p>
<p>If the war in Iraq was all about helping out his oil buddies, why has the price of gas gone up?  It does the oil companies no good to make record profits now if people start using less gas in the future.  When people actually start using less gas, then the oil companies profits will plunge.  How does that help them?</p>
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		<title>By: George Washington</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Washington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 20:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>High gas prices are good, because cheap gas has prompted people to make incredibly stupid decisions, like buying gas guzzling cars, and failing to demand that their leaders enact public policy that reduces dependency on foreign energy sources. The cheap gas we've enjoyed for many years has led complacent Americans to ignore the effects of global warming. Cheap gas has let us forget that people are being killed  in a war that most American ignorantly supported. Our fear-mongering president  led the U.S. into a totally unnecessary and counter-productive war, to keep gas cheap so that GM could continue to sell anti-social Hummer trucks to moronic Americans.

Every dumbass  who made the fool-ass decision to buy a car for normal use that gets less than 30 miles a gallon - to hell with them, they're ruining my country. 

Let efficiency and conservation be the new national obsession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High gas prices are good, because cheap gas has prompted people to make incredibly stupid decisions, like buying gas guzzling cars, and failing to demand that their leaders enact public policy that reduces dependency on foreign energy sources. The cheap gas we&#8217;ve enjoyed for many years has led complacent Americans to ignore the effects of global warming. Cheap gas has let us forget that people are being killed  in a war that most American ignorantly supported. Our fear-mongering president  led the U.S. into a totally unnecessary and counter-productive war, to keep gas cheap so that GM could continue to sell anti-social Hummer trucks to moronic Americans.</p>
<p>Every dumbass  who made the fool-ass decision to buy a car for normal use that gets less than 30 miles a gallon - to hell with them, they&#8217;re ruining my country. </p>
<p>Let efficiency and conservation be the new national obsession.</p>
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		<title>By: history guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>history guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 03:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but  drilling in ANWAR will not drive the price of gas. Why? because it will then go on the global market, like all the other supplies of gas in the United States, which is controlled by OPEC and capitalist oil firms various oligarchies. This is why a barrell of oil imported from Mexico and Canada cost the US the same as a barrell of oil imported by Iran from the Caucaus area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but  drilling in ANWAR will not drive the price of gas. Why? because it will then go on the global market, like all the other supplies of gas in the United States, which is controlled by OPEC and capitalist oil firms various oligarchies. This is why a barrell of oil imported from Mexico and Canada cost the US the same as a barrell of oil imported by Iran from the Caucaus area.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 02:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's not just a minor regulation when the government says you can't drill anywhere in ANWR.  That's a major impedement to creating a domestic oil supply.  The area they would need to actually "spoil" to start drilling in ANWR amounts to less than 1% of the total land mass.  (And it's not anywhere those cute polar bears and seals.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just a minor regulation when the government says you can&#8217;t drill anywhere in ANWR.  That&#8217;s a major impedement to creating a domestic oil supply.  The area they would need to actually &#8220;spoil&#8221; to start drilling in ANWR amounts to less than 1% of the total land mass.  (And it&#8217;s not anywhere those cute polar bears and seals.)</p>
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		<title>By: history guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>history guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 02:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhh Jason fairly minor and flexible regulations on where one can drill, environmental regulations and taxes do not equal a "socialized system." I know the right wing pundits on TV tell you that, buts its not true. 

See, if the US had a socialized system, then all the profits, not just a tiny slice would go to the government. Why? because the entire system would be nationalized. In reality, the profit goes to private capitalist firms like Exxon, Hess, Lukeoil (sp?) and the rest. Production is also owned by private firms. Distrubution is done by private capitalist firms. And get this, so are retail sales of oil. 

I'll put it into a nice glib sound bite for you to understand

Socialized System = State Control
US Oil System = Private control, with limited state regulation
US Oil System =/ Socialized

=/ = not equal. I can't do the math symbol.

As for Venezuela, they regulate their oil industry just like do in the US. They dont allow you to randomly set up derricks in that country, like in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhh Jason fairly minor and flexible regulations on where one can drill, environmental regulations and taxes do not equal a &#8220;socialized system.&#8221; I know the right wing pundits on TV tell you that, buts its not true. </p>
<p>See, if the US had a socialized system, then all the profits, not just a tiny slice would go to the government. Why? because the entire system would be nationalized. In reality, the profit goes to private capitalist firms like Exxon, Hess, Lukeoil (sp?) and the rest. Production is also owned by private firms. Distrubution is done by private capitalist firms. And get this, so are retail sales of oil. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll put it into a nice glib sound bite for you to understand</p>
<p>Socialized System = State Control<br />
US Oil System = Private control, with limited state regulation<br />
US Oil System =/ Socialized</p>
<p>=/ = not equal. I can&#8217;t do the math symbol.</p>
<p>As for Venezuela, they regulate their oil industry just like do in the US. They dont allow you to randomly set up derricks in that country, like in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 23:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venezuela doesn't have a problem because their government lets them drill for oil in their &lt;strong&gt;own country&lt;/strong&gt;. The United States has to import almost all of their oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venezuela doesn&#8217;t have a problem because their government lets them drill for oil in their <strong>own country</strong>. The United States has to import almost all of their oil.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 23:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capitalists aren't in control of the U.S. gas supply. We have a socialized system of oil and gas production here too.  The Government tells the oil companies where they're allowed to drill, how they have to blend their fuel and then profits (through taxes) from a product they contributed absolutely nothing to make. That's socialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capitalists aren&#8217;t in control of the U.S. gas supply. We have a socialized system of oil and gas production here too.  The Government tells the oil companies where they&#8217;re allowed to drill, how they have to blend their fuel and then profits (through taxes) from a product they contributed absolutely nothing to make. That&#8217;s socialism.</p>
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		<title>By: History Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>History Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 22:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting anonymous, but problem is, we're facing that problem with capitalists in control, while "socialized" oil systems like Venezuela aren't havin g that problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting anonymous, but problem is, we&#8217;re facing that problem with capitalists in control, while &#8220;socialized&#8221; oil systems like Venezuela aren&#8217;t havin g that problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 20:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To paraphrase Jefferson:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
"If we depended on government to drill our oil, refine our oil and ship it to the stations, we should soon want gas."
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To paraphrase Jefferson:</p>
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&#8220;If we depended on government to drill our oil, refine our oil and ship it to the stations, we should soon want gas.&#8221;
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 20:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer to look at the government track record in the 20th and 21st centuries.  Going back to the 1800's to show government railroads were a success doesn't impress me.

Did NASA really land on the moon?  That was a hoax! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer to look at the government track record in the 20th and 21st centuries.  Going back to the 1800&#8217;s to show government railroads were a success doesn&#8217;t impress me.</p>
<p>Did NASA really land on the moon?  That was a hoax! <img src='http://www.trommetter.com/log/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: History Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>History Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 18:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amtrak is one minor part of the history of American railroads. Without them, westward movement, settlement, and development would have been far different. While Amtrak is probably a failure, the original railroads, all dependent on government support because of big business's risk aversion. Again, you're displaying the historical aliteracy common among the libertarian political persuasion.

It took along time to capture the x-prize, an endeavor made easier by the fact government had already paved the way decades earlier. As for your statement  "All the money we’ve wasted on NASA hasn’t even come close to duplicating what Brian Binnie and his private corporation accomplished." I am not sure whether to cry or hit you with a elementary school history book. I mean, Christ the stupidity just oozes from that statement. I mean NASA landed on the moon, did all those space probes, is responsible for 30,000 different spinoffs, including scratch resistant coating on most glasses ;) But then again, firing off a rocket twice is surely equal to that.

The internet was invented for the US military by universities receiving DARPA money. And big business are far worse than the government in supressing freedom online with DRM, the DMCA, and other bogus laws. And they're getting away with it because they are completely unaccountable. You can't vote them out of office, FOIA for their records, or  in many cases prosecute them because arent real people.

 Nor does the constitution apply to them. Which is why Wal-Mart can force all their employees to say hail Satan or Happy holidays without fear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amtrak is one minor part of the history of American railroads. Without them, westward movement, settlement, and development would have been far different. While Amtrak is probably a failure, the original railroads, all dependent on government support because of big business&#8217;s risk aversion. Again, you&#8217;re displaying the historical aliteracy common among the libertarian political persuasion.</p>
<p>It took along time to capture the x-prize, an endeavor made easier by the fact government had already paved the way decades earlier. As for your statement  &#8220;All the money we’ve wasted on NASA hasn’t even come close to duplicating what Brian Binnie and his private corporation accomplished.&#8221; I am not sure whether to cry or hit you with a elementary school history book. I mean, Christ the stupidity just oozes from that statement. I mean NASA landed on the moon, did all those space probes, is responsible for 30,000 different spinoffs, including scratch resistant coating on most glasses <img src='http://www.trommetter.com/log/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> But then again, firing off a rocket twice is surely equal to that.</p>
<p>The internet was invented for the US military by universities receiving DARPA money. And big business are far worse than the government in supressing freedom online with DRM, the DMCA, and other bogus laws. And they&#8217;re getting away with it because they are completely unaccountable. You can&#8217;t vote them out of office, FOIA for their records, or  in many cases prosecute them because arent real people.</p>
<p> Nor does the constitution apply to them. Which is why Wal-Mart can force all their employees to say hail Satan or Happy holidays without fear.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 17:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You'll have to tell me more about the failed libertarian system. I can't think of any period under our current Constitution when we had a libertarian system.
&lt;p&gt;Railroads? I'd like you to try to prove to me that Amtrak is a huge government success story. &lt;a title="Amtrak Too Costly" target="_blank" href="http://www.columbian.com/opinion/news/05042006news25628.cfm" rel="nofollow"&gt;It's a sinkhole that the government pours more money down every year&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;NASA? That's a colossal waste of money. How much time did it take &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/10/04/spaceshipone.attempt.cnn/" rel="nofollow"&gt;SpaceShipOne to capture the X Prize&lt;/a&gt;? All the money we've wasted on NASA hasn't even come close to duplicating what Brian Binnie and his private corporation accomplished.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The internet was originally developed by mostly private Universities with private grants. (Not by Al Gore.) Right now the government is thinking about new Internet regulations that will ruin the free and open exchange of ideas that happens now.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Profit is the best motivator there is. Don't even get me started on government accountability. If there was any kind of government accountability for the way they spend taxpayers money we wouldn't have half the government buildings in WV named after the &lt;a title="Pig Book Oinkers" target="_blank" href="http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=reports_pigbook2006Oinkers" rel="nofollow"&gt;King of Pork&lt;/a&gt;, Robert Byrd.
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll have to tell me more about the failed libertarian system. I can&#8217;t think of any period under our current Constitution when we had a libertarian system.</p>
<p>Railroads? I&#8217;d like you to try to prove to me that Amtrak is a huge government success story. <a title="Amtrak Too Costly" target="_blank" href="http://www.columbian.com/opinion/news/05042006news25628.cfm" rel="nofollow">It&#8217;s a sinkhole that the government pours more money down every year</a>.
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<p>NASA? That&#8217;s a colossal waste of money. How much time did it take <a target="_blank" href="http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/10/04/spaceshipone.attempt.cnn/" rel="nofollow">SpaceShipOne to capture the X Prize</a>? All the money we&#8217;ve wasted on NASA hasn&#8217;t even come close to duplicating what Brian Binnie and his private corporation accomplished.
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<p>The internet was originally developed by mostly private Universities with private grants. (Not by Al Gore.) Right now the government is thinking about new Internet regulations that will ruin the free and open exchange of ideas that happens now.
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<p>Profit is the best motivator there is. Don&#8217;t even get me started on government accountability. If there was any kind of government accountability for the way they spend taxpayers money we wouldn&#8217;t have half the government buildings in WV named after the <a title="Pig Book Oinkers" target="_blank" href="http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=reports_pigbook2006Oinkers" rel="nofollow">King of Pork</a>, Robert Byrd.</p>
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